Plesničar : maj 2021

nedelja, 30. maj 2021

Družina Plesničar Sedovec - Ravnica (I)

petek, 28. maj 2021

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (IV)

John indicated to me that he would be interested in any information relating to his history.

The path of his grandfather Anton (1868-1932) was very interesting.

The documentation he sent me shows that his great-grandfather Anton (1868-1932) moved from Slovenia (then Austria-Hungary) to Brezno in Slovakia, where he married Maria Bosziny on September 25, 1899.

He came to the United States in 1913, and his son Andrew Peter Plesnicar (1907-1985) John's grandfather followed him there in 1920 along with his mother Maria Bosziny.

John’s grandfather Andrew Peter Plesnicar (1907-1985) always said when he was young that he was from Czechoslovakia. Czechoslovakia was mentioned in immigration documents from 1920. John only recently found out during the search that the surname was Slovenian and said that most of his life he had no idea about the correct origin of the surname Plesničar.

As far as John is concerned, history has become explored and traceable. How they will preserve it and explore it more widely is in their domain. I also keep his wider pedigree, which I will send him. The majority of his relatives still live in Slovenia.

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (III)

John told me that no one in their family knew anything about these names, including his father Andrew J. Plesnicar (Anton’s grandson 1940-), who is still alive.

He stated that his grandfather Andrew Peter Plesnicar (1907-1985) knew nothing about his great-grandfather's siblings or great-grandparents. If possible he knew, he never talked about it.

When things are not archived and documented, unfortunately, the information is forgotten and every year there is less chance of finding another 100-year-old and more old kinship.

Anton Plesnicar, born in Ravnica in 1868, died in Chicago, Illinois in 1932.

One of Anton's sons, Andrew Peter Plesnicar (John's grandfather), was born in 1907 and came to the United States in 1920. He died in 1985 in Franklin Park, Illinois.

Andrew J. Plesnicar (John’s father) was born in Illinois in 1940 and still lives.

John P. Plesnicar (CEO of LNG Global) was born in 1967 in Illinois and lives in El Segundo, California, USA.

John's contact information: johnca7018@gmail.com

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (II)

According to the information i ve had in the archives, his great-grandfather Anton Plesnicar was born in 1868 in Ravnica near the then Gorica.

At the beginning, I looked at what I have in my documentation and found the following:

His great-grandfather Anton was born in 1868 (parents Peter Plesnicar 1831-1900 and Marija Batic 1832-1909), he had a twin sister named Marija. His brothers and sisters were: Stefan (1856), Jozef (1858), Andrej (1860, died 1861) and Terezija (1862).

His great-grandparents were Peter Plesnicar (1831-1900) and Marija Batic (1832-1909) and the oldest perceived ancestors so far Jozef Plesnicar (1792-1865) and Marija Batic (1799-1880).

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (I)

Some time ago, we were in contact with a relative, John Plesnicar, who is the director of LNG Global at Ferris State University in El Segundo, California, USA. Specifically EL Segundo sticks to Los Angeles.

Due to the possible traceability of the data, I decided to archive things and publish them on a blog.

John explained to me that he had only recently found out that the surname Plesnicar was of Slovenian origin.

With such research, it is always important for people to look at the graph below of how the areas have changed over the centuries and under the jurisdiction of which countries have been ours over the centuries.

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (V) documentation of Anton Plesnicar (1868-1932)

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (IV)

John mi je navedel, da bi ga zanimale kakršne koli informacije, ki se nanašajo na njegovo zgodovino.

Pot njegovega deda Antona (1868-1932) je bila zelo zanimiva.

Iz dokumentacije, ki mi jo je poslal je razvidno, da se je njegov praded Anton (1868-1932) preselil iz Slovenije (takratne Avstroogrske) v Brezno na Slovaško, kjer se je poročil 25.9.1899 z Marijo Bosziny.

V ZDA je prišel leta 1913, njegov sin Andrew Peter Plesnicar (1907-1985) Johnov ded pa mu je sledil tja leta 1920 skupaj z materjo Marijo Bosziny.

Johnov ded Andrew Peter Plesnicar (1907-1985) je vedno govoril, ko je bil še mlad, da je bil iz Češkoslovaške. V dokumentih o priseljevanju iz leta 1920 je bila navedena Češkoslovaška. John je šele pred kratkim pri iskanju ugotovil, da je priimek slovenski in dejal, da je večino svojega življenja ni imel pojma o pravilnem izvoru priimka Plesničar.

Kar zadeva Johna je zgodovina postala raziskana in sledljiva. Kako pa jo bodo ohranili in raziskali širše pa je v njihovi domeni. Jaz hranim tudi njihov širši rodovnik, ki mu ga bom poslal. Glavnina njegovih sorodnikov še vedno živi v Sloveniji.

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (III)

John mi je navedel, da nihče v njihovi družini ni vedel ničesar o teh imenih, vključno z njegovim očetom Andrew J. Plesnicarjem (Antonovim vnukom 1940-), ki še vedno živi.

Navedel je, da njegov ded Andrew Peter Plesnicar (1907-1985) ni ničesar vedel o pra dedovih bratih in sestrah ali pra starših. Če pa je mogoče vedel, ni nikoli govoril o tem.

Kadar se stvari ne arhivirajo in dokumentirajo je žal tako, da se informacije pozabijo in vsako leto je manj možnosti, da se še ugotovi 100 let in več staro sorodstvo.

Anton Plesnicar, ki je bil rojen v Ravnici leta 1868, je umrl v Chicagu v Illinoisu leta 1932.

Eden od Antonovih sinov Andrew Peter Plesnicar (Johnov ded) se je rodil leta 1907, v ZDA je prišel leta 1920. Umrl je leta 1985 v Franklin Parku v Illinoisu

Andrew J. Plesnicar (Johnov oče) se je rodil v Illinoisu leta 1940 in še vedno živi.

John P. Plesnicar (direktor firme LNG Global) pa je rojen leta 1967 v Illinoisu in živi v El Segundu v Kaliforniji, ZDA.

Johnovi kontaktni podatki so: johnca7018@gmail.com

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (II)

Po podatkih, ki jih je imel v arhivu se je njegov praded Anton Plesničar rodil leta 1868 v kraju Ravnica pri takratni Gorici.

Na začetku sem pogledal, kaj imam v svoji dokumentaciji, in ugotovil naslednje:

Njegov praded Anton se je rodil leta 1868 (staršema Petru Plesnicarju 1831-1900 in Mariji Batic 1832-1909), imel je sestro dvojčico po imenu Marija. Njegovi sorojenci so bili: Stefan (1856), Jozef (1858), Andrej (1860, umrl 1861) in Terezija (1862).

Njegova pra pra starša sta bila Peter Plesnicar (1831-1900) in Marija Batič (1832-1909) ter še najstarejša zaznana prednika do sedaj Jožef Plesničar (1792-1865) in Marija Batič (1799-1880).

John Plesnicar, El Segundo, California, USA (I)

Pred časom sva bila v kontaktu z sorodnikom Johnom Plesničarjem, ki je direktor firme LNG Global pri Ferris State University v mestu El Segundo v Kaliforniji, ZDA. Točneje EL Segundo se drži Los Angelesa.

Zaradi morebitne sledljivosti podatkov sem se odločil, da stvari arhiviram in jih objavim na blogu.

John mi je razložil, da je šele pred kratkim ugotovil, da je priimek Plesničar slovenskega izvora.

Ob takšnih raziskavah je vedno pomembno, da si ljudje pogledajo spodnjo grafiko, kako so se državna področja spreminjala skozi stoletja in pod jurisdikcijo katere države so bila naša ozemlja skozi stoletja.